From: atterlep@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Cardinal Ximenez) Subject: Re: Ancient Books Organization: National Association for the Disorganized Lines: 20 cobb@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Mike Cobb) writes: >If I talk with an atheist and tell him the New Testament is an historically >reliable document, what reasons would I give him? I have found that this isn't a very effective argument. Most atheists are perfectly willing to acknowledge the existence and ministry of Jesus--but are quite capable of rationalizing the miracles and the resurrection into misunderstandings, hoaxes, or simple fabrications. They can always make an analogy with the _Iliad_, a book that tells the story of the historical Trojan War, but also talks about gods and goddesses and their conversations. I don't think it's possible to convince atheists of the validity of Christianity through argument. We have to help foster faith and an understanding of God. I could be wrong--are there any former atheists here who were led to Christianity by argument? Alan Terlep "Incestuous vituperousness" Oakland University, Rochester, MI atterlep@vela.acs.oakland.edu --Melissa Eggertsen Rushing in where angels fear to tread.