From: mls@panix.com (Michael Siemon) Subject: Re: Weirdness of Early Christians Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC Lines: 58 Were the early Christians weird? Yes! So were their non-Christian contemporaries (the more familiar you are with late Republican Rome or the Pricipate, the weirder those people will seem -- forget the creative filtering done by Renaissance and Eighteenth Century hero worship.) So are modern non-Christians. And Christians. You are pretty weird, yourself, with your rather acid dismissal of Luther and of Protestantism -- and in apparently buying into a simplistic propaganda model about Catholicism *not* being faddish. Sure, it's so large that global fads take longer cycles than they do in smaller denominations (and local ones are not usually visible unless you do a lot of traveling to exotic lands :-)). May I recom- mend, as a salutary antidote to this nonsense Philippe Aries' book _The Hour of our Death_, a longitudinal study of death customs in Western [specifically Catholic] Christendom? And it won't help to escape into the obscurity of the first Christian century. Paul was pretty weird, too; as were Peter and the others in the (apparently quite weird) circle around Jesus. What I think you might find helpful is a bit more charity -- try to understand these weirdos and nutcases with the same respect and love you would expect others to show YOUR notions. We *are* commanded to love one another, after all. And Brown's book is, in fact, a heroic attempt to SEE the groupings he talks about as motivated in love and the gospel and their social contexts. (If anything, Brown is *too* heroic here -- he manages to overstrain himself at times :-)) I don't suggest that we *follow* any of these old cult paths -- and it raises hard questions from the skeptic inside me that so much of early Christianity *was* like the weird (Christian and non-Christian) cults we see today. To that extent, I think you raise a serious problem (and perhaps your phrasing is implicitly self-deprecatory and ironic.) But the first principle for *answering* these questions is respect and love for those we do not understand. And it helps to *work* at under- standing (as long as we do not get overwhelmed by revulsion and begin to withdraw our respect for them as people.) I would advise, in other words, MORE historical reading (Brown's other books are also good, most especially his bio. of Augustine; also try Robin Lane Fox's _Christians and Pagans_, maybe the Paul Veyne ed. _History of Private Life_, some of Foucault's books on sexuality in the ancient world ...) Humanity *is* weird -- we have known ONE sane person, and we killed Him. Fortunately for us, this has proved a Comedy rather than a Tragedy. Easter, 1993. (yes; this is a tad early -- our Vigil service here has been moved forward because so many churches in the area have taken to doing their own Vigils, and the seminarians must therefore worship-and-run if they are to do it here and there as well. Think of this as an Anglican fad. :-)) -- Michael L. Siemon We must know the truth, and we must mls@ulysses.att.com love the truth we know, and we must - or - act according to the measure of our love. mls@panix.com -- Thomas Merton