From: row0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (RICHARD O. WHITE) Subject: Re: Help with ultra-long timing Organization: Lehigh University Lines: 49 In article <1993Apr5.083324.48826@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, wellison@kuhub.cc.ukans.e du writes: >I have a project that was drooped in my lap that is somewhat a pain to design. >What I am looking for is a stable ultra-long solid state timer. What they want >to do is to place this thing on the Antartic ice shelf and measure the amount >of snow fall over a period of six weeks. Every two weeks, they want to trip a >selonoid to discharge different colored pellets by gas pressure out across the >snow. Then by digging down into the snow, the snow fall amount can be measured >as they come to the different color pellets. > >The problem is trying to build a timer that would stand the cold (-40 degrees) >and a power source that wouldn't drain. I have looked at the XR-2204 timers and >the standard NE556 dual timers, but thier temp specs won't go that low. Also, >two weeks equates to 1,209,600 seconds per firing, which means one big timing >cap ! I have found 2.2 farad (yes, Farad !) caps that have a working voltage of >5 volts and are small in size. But again, the time of discharge at -40 or lower >degrees isn't linear. I was thinking of using several timers chained together >to fire the selonid at the end of the timing period, but that blasted cold and >the drain on a battery over six weeks is the pain. One possibility would be to >use solar panels, but this is during the six month twilight. Anyone have any >good ideas ? > >Thanks in advance... > >-=-= Wes =-=- > just a suggestion: take a motorola mc14536B set it up to give you a pulse once every sec or ten secs with either a RC or xtal clock input. then feed to a MC14521B as clock input and decode output for 1,209,600 sec output ,might have to add a few 'and' gates or decoder chips to get output and reset pulse back to the'521 to restart cycle... Trigger a oneshot from the decoded riseing edge ;the one shot then goes to a mosfet to drive the mechanism to fire the pellet launcher.. these ckts require uAmps of current,between 5 - 15 volts, so a 12 volt gel cell of a few Amphours would last the six weeks. Then take the ckt board & battery wrap in 3" or 4" of foam or build a box of out of the stuff...with plywood or metal exterior... build a small heater out of 10-50 Watt resistors in series to keep the battery and ckts warm. 2nd thought use 2 batteries one for heater one for timer and pellet trigger. Insolate-insolate.......even though the chips state that the - AL rated devices are good to -55 C.. The batteries have a considerable reduction in capacity...oh make sure the area inside has minium air leakage.. hope this helps RW ( is this to long winded for the net??)(be gentle)... --