From: livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) Subject: Re: After 2000 years, can we say that Christian Morality is Organization: sgi Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: solntze.wpd.sgi.com In article <1qkq9t$66n@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de>, frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes: |> |> I'll take a wild guess and say Freedom is objectively valuable. I base |> this on the assumption that if everyone in the world were deprived utterly |> of their freedom (so that their every act was contrary to their volition), |> almost all would want to complain. Therefore I take it that to assert or |> believe that "Freedom is not very valuable", when almost everyone can see |> that it is, is every bit as absurd as to assert "it is not raining" on |> a rainy day. I take this to be a candidate for an objective value, and it |> it is a necessary condition for objective morality that objective values |> such as this exist. My own personal and highly subjective opinion is that freedom is a good thing. However, when I here people assert that the only "true" freedom is in following the words of this and that Messiah, I realise that people don't even agree on the meaning of the word. What does it mean to say that word X represents an objective value when word X has no objective meaning? jon.