zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wupost!uunet!olivea!sgigate!odin!fido!solntze.wpd.sgi.com!livesey Subject: Re: <1p88fi$4vv@fido.asd.sgi.com> <1993Mar30.051246.29911@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> <1p8nd7$e9f@fido.asd.sgi.com> <1pa0stINNpqa@gap.caltech.edu> <1pan4f$b6j@fido.asd.sgi.com> Organization: sgi NNTP-Posting-Host: solntze.wpd.sgi.com Lines: 20 In article <1pieg7INNs09@gap.caltech.edu>, keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider) writes: |> livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) writes: |> |> >Now along comes Mr Keith Schneider and says "Here is an "objective |> >moral system". And then I start to ask him about the definitions |> >that this "objective" system depends on, and, predictably, the whole |> >thing falls apart. |> |> It only falls apart if you attempt to apply it. This doesn't mean that |> an objective system can't exist. It just means that one cannot be |> implemented. It's not the fact that it can't exist that bothers me. It's the fact that you don't seem to be able to define it. If I wanted to hear about indefinable things that might in principle exist as long as you don't think about them too carefully, I could ask a religious person, now couldn't I? jon.